HTML 5, WebGL, and JS

[hallsofvallhalla]

I am going to be spending the next few weeks learning HTML 5, WebGL, and advanced Javascript. As soon as I get to a good place with it I will create some video tutorials so others may learn. Tutorials on how to make games using these.

[Jackolantern]

Sounds awesome, but I don't know about the HTML 5 part. It is still going to be a very long time before writing HTML 5 pages will be compatible for most users. Judging from past technology roll-outs and browser adoption times, it will likely be about another 5 years.

[hallsofvallhalla]

Many of the finished HTML 5 features are already compatible with the latest versions of most browsers. The rest are suppose to be finished by the end of the year but like you said who really knows.

HTML 5 is not at the top of my list.Advanced Javascript is what I am really aiming at.

[Jackolantern]

When the new features are in the latest browsers isn't the problem. It is when the majority of users are using the new browsers. However, I know it is a pretty minor thing to learn. It is not like a major version update to PHP or JS or something. You may just want to be a bit wary about putting HTML 5 in video tutorials, or a beginner who doesn't know much about web development could write their entire site using HTML 5-specific features, only to find it isn't compatible with 80% of the browsers on the market

The advanced JS stuff sounds great. Do you use JQuery? That definitely helps out with advanced Javascripting since you don't have to worry about browser inequalities very much, or selection messes

[hallsofvallhalla]

i have never used any JS libraries, not even jquery. From what I have seen Ajax does what I need or I hand write everything I need. Not exactly the best route but it teches me more when I do it on my own. I did find a sweet JS game library I am working with though.

[Chris]

Well while it sounds cool to start learning that stuff it won't be a standard until 2020 or so. Another annoying part is that IE refuse to support any HTML 5, I'm guessing this is because the money they have just invested in Silverlight.. that no one uses. I wish you luck.

Here's a cool website I check up on now and then, they have some pretty cool(and buggy) stuff:
http://www.chromeexperiments.com/

[hallsofvallhalla]

2020? Doubt that, in 8 years we will be on HTML 8. Nothing in the PC world is broadcast out 10 years, too much changes. It is actually going to become integrated by end of year, standard won't be far behind.

IE is losing battles left and right and more and more people are are leaving it in the dust where it belongs. Every time I have to open up IE I think of Windows 3.1.

On a side not I am not impressed with play feel or performance.

Thanks for the link, very kewl stuff!

[Chris]

I especially like this one. The first demo, the cloth simulation is awesome:
http://gyu.que.jp/jscloth/touch.html

[hallsofvallhalla]

wow those are awesome

[Jackolantern]

It is actually going to become integrated by end of year, standard won't be far behind.

A lot of people are still using IE 6. How long will it be before no one is using IE 8 anymore? It is going to be at least 5 - 6 years probably before the number is small enough not to worry about.

It isn't when the features are implemented in current browsers version, but when the bulk of internet users have updated. And we all know that is typically years behind when new versions are rolled out.