Soooo awesome....

[rockinliam]

http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/ I want to be able to make that.
Think its only for google chrome.

[alexander19]

It worked in firefox too...pretty damn awesome though.

[Chris]

yeah, it's awesome. Half works in Opera.

[rockinliam]

It says made with HTML 5, HOW?! Gotta be javascript.

[Jackolantern]

It says made with HTML 5, HOW?! Gotta be javascript.

Oh yes, there is some serious Javascript going on in there, surely. If not that, there is some other media plugin or extension being used. When they say they used HTML 5, they just mean for the page structure (not much in this case).

[hallsofvallhalla]

whoa...(page has been loading for 15 minutes..........................)

It says made with HTML 5, HOW?! Gotta be javascript.

why would that be?

[Jackolantern]

Hmm, apparently some small animation effects are possible with only HTML5 and CSS. However, from what I am reading it seems much more clunky than doing the same thing in Javascript or Flash. The nice thing is is that it cannot be turned off, though. The bad news is that it is going to be at least 5 years before you could use it in a mainstream website and be confident 95%+ of users can see it correctly, considering how slowly IE updates to this stuff. Right now Chrome and Safari (the 2 webkit browsers that can display these animations correctly) only have a combined 10% market share, so either Firefox and IE add support--which has to be pretty specific to function correctly--or these remain a tech demo only.

[hallsofvallhalla]

only have a combined 10% market share

ugh i hate hearing that quote...completely untrue. They included business's and many more systems that default to IE. Like my company. 40,000 PCs, all use IE, mainly because it works for a basic browser and we do not need anything else. Games are blocked, many sites are too. Should not even be considered yet they are. Actually users that will visit your site or play your game is a whole other story.

[Jackolantern]

So what are you saying? The highest possible number anyone could sanely say about Chrome and Safari's marketshare is maybe 20%, but that doesn't change anything. You can't use these techniques right now and assume that the mainstream can view it correctly. Chrome has had a less than enthusiastic splash since its release and many Mac users use a different browser (namely Firefox, but even if they were all using Safari it would not add a huge number compared to the PCs out there).

No one knows the true numbers on the browsers out there, but some organizations have made pretty decent attempts to find out, through many different methods. When all those are taken in, you start to get a baseline, or an average, that covers a lot of research and data collection. And why would you want to use methods that would cause a large portion of your users to have to download a new browser (which most won't do) when another, widely-available alternative is available?

[hallsofvallhalla]

i was not saying anyone should jump on HTML 5. Just said I believe those numbers are wrong or someone should at least should check out things themselves than believe some market research that was skewed. I can look at my multiple websites I maintain, and when I say multiple I many many many, between, work, hobby, and personal, and the numbers are very different. Firefox takes a huge slice.

I agree HTML 5 is a ways off..5 years? not hardly in my book but we will see. The market has changed so much in the last 5-10 years that you cannot base how long implementation will take based on previous experiences.