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after havn't taking no classes in 6months.

I am taking Java Programming II and Intro to Business.

I have only done Java programming in my Java Programming I class so this ought to be really interesting which was over 6 months. I forgot like everything =0

I have a couple guys that work for me that take some programming college courses and they show me some of their lessons and it is really a joke. They have to learn C#, C++, VB, Java, ect.. and it is the same programming they are writing over and over for each one. It makes no sense why they would teach that way and teach someone so many languages when in reality they will only use one or two at their job.

It's not the language you need to learn, it's the principals of coding. [EDIT] Oh, I bet you know them already
After that, you need to 'understand' the pros and cons of different languages to be able to see solutions in various ways.

But good luck, Sim! Oh and.. during those courses.. If you have the motivation.. Go for the 'wow'-factor, that is, push for something different in all the exercises, do a bit more and test your teachers actual skills

agreed on learning the fundamentals but learning the same fundamentals over and over in different languages defeats that purpose.

Good luck man! I"m glad u're taking classes again. I dropped college with a 3.74 GPA after two years. I really got bored and wasn't chalenging me anymore, so I dropped out. I should have never done so. So kudos and I hope you push onwards and upwards.

It def is not challenging at all. But where I live all IT jobs require a BS in CS. Even an AS degree is no use for IT jobs anymore.

Im at university - My post is somewhere on this forum

I study VB - C++ and C# and I have to learn Java and Linux xD

hallsofvallhalla wrote:I have a couple guys that work for me that take some programming college courses and they show me some of their lessons and it is really a joke. They have to learn C#, C++, VB, Java, ect.. and it is the same programming they are writing over and over for each one. It makes no sense why they would teach that way and teach someone so many languages when in reality they will only use one or two at their job.

That is really odd, and probably a sign of a very poor CS program at their school. We were formally taught only one high-level language (Java), and all other classes dig into deeper topics (such as assembly, writing compilers, operator system architecture, networking, HCI, data structures, etc.). There are some classes that teach other languages such as C++, Python and some others, but they are all what are called "Special Topics", which are essentially electives. You can either take a special topic course on another language, parallel programming, Android programming, etc.

Learning other languages is very beneficial for a programmer, but it does kind of sound like they may have a severe lack of CS teachers. Teaching languages is very easy since you can basically follow along in the same book you are teaching from. But teaching other topics generally requires a deep understanding of the topic (a teacher won't be able to teach an assembly class without actually knowing assembly intimately). There is a huge shortage of CS teachers today, and I assume that is probably it.

I am thinking my college Strayer focuses on C#. In order to get my degree C# I and II are required if I remember correctly. I cant remember if Java I and II are as well. But C# as the most pre-reqs. Database stuff and other junky classes. ;\

Jackolantern wrote:

hallsofvallhalla wrote:I have a couple guys that work for me that take some programming college courses and they show me some of their lessons and it is really a joke. They have to learn C#, C++, VB, Java, ect.. and it is the same programming they are writing over and over for each one. It makes no sense why they would teach that way and teach someone so many languages when in reality they will only use one or two at their job.

That is really odd, and probably a sign of a very poor CS program at their school. We were formally taught only one high-level language (Java), and all other classes dig into deeper topics (such as assembly, writing compilers, operator system architecture, networking, HCI, data structures, etc.). There are some classes that teach other languages such as C++, Python and some others, but they are all what are called "Special Topics", which are essentially electives. You can either take a special topic course on another language, parallel programming, Android programming, etc.

Learning other languages is very beneficial for a programmer, but it does kind of sound like they may have a severe lack of CS teachers. Teaching languages is very easy since you can basically follow along in the same book you are teaching from. But teaching other topics generally requires a deep understanding of the topic (a teacher won't be able to teach an assembly class without actually knowing assembly intimately). There is a huge shortage of CS teachers today, and I assume that is probably it.

That makes sense. That is the way I would want classes structured.

Seems like Java is the base language for a lot of universities.