Hello everyone. I am 25 married with 2 kids. I work two jobs and going to college. I don't know what for yet just knocking out the basics right now. I spent 5 years in the army and two deployments to Iraq.
Ok now I use to do little clan websites and all on "geocities" for the video games I use to play so I have a little xp with html BUT that was like 8 years ago. Now I'm really into these text based or browser based game(I don't know the difference or if there is a difference) but all the ones I play seem to be more about making money then fair play. I understand they would want to get paid for there work but my opinion is you can't compete with the guy who spends 100 dollars a month on the game. Which brings me here. I want to make a text or browser based game, not for the money for fun fair game play. So I'm a noobie to all of this and I'm going to watch all the videos and maybe get a book or two and try not to out do my welcome with a bunch of "dumb" questions.
Lol. First off what is or is there a difference between text based and browser based games?
Am I in the right place?
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SpiritWebb
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Welcome to Indie...ask anything and someone is bound to have an answer or point you in the right direction. Glad to have you here.
Text based is purely text no graphics. You can have a text browser-based game, you can also have 2d to 3d browser based games. 2D like the old GTA, or 2D isometric where it looks 3D, but is actually 2D. Then there is 2.5D, but I dont know how to explain that one. Then of course 3D...enough said!!
Text based is purely text no graphics. You can have a text browser-based game, you can also have 2d to 3d browser based games. 2D like the old GTA, or 2D isometric where it looks 3D, but is actually 2D. Then there is 2.5D, but I dont know how to explain that one. Then of course 3D...enough said!!
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Jackolantern
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Welcome!
Well, not all text-based games are browser-based, and not all browser-based games are text-based. An easy term for the kind of games you are referring to, and one that is picking up steam is "PBBG", or Persistent Browser-Based Game. These types of games are often made with PHP (or some other kind of server-side language like ASP.NET or Java Server Pages), HTML, CSS and Javascript. I think some people also include Flash and browser-based Java games like Runescape in PBBG, but most people seem to consider them to only be games made with websites themselves and no plugins. The problem with calling them "text-based games" is that the most famous text-based games are MUDs, which are not specifically browser-based (they are based on Telnet). And "browser-based game" can mean games like Runescape, Flash and Unity 3D games, which are closer to desktop-style games.
Well, not all text-based games are browser-based, and not all browser-based games are text-based. An easy term for the kind of games you are referring to, and one that is picking up steam is "PBBG", or Persistent Browser-Based Game. These types of games are often made with PHP (or some other kind of server-side language like ASP.NET or Java Server Pages), HTML, CSS and Javascript. I think some people also include Flash and browser-based Java games like Runescape in PBBG, but most people seem to consider them to only be games made with websites themselves and no plugins. The problem with calling them "text-based games" is that the most famous text-based games are MUDs, which are not specifically browser-based (they are based on Telnet). And "browser-based game" can mean games like Runescape, Flash and Unity 3D games, which are closer to desktop-style games.
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Re: Am I in the right place?
WOW!!! Yes PBBG is the type of game I was talking about. I would like to start with just text. I don't need graphics or anything yet.
1. Is php what I need to start with and learn first?
2. Do you know of any really good simple to understand books that would really help me out?
3. Should I just go play in traffic
1. Is php what I need to start with and learn first?
2. Do you know of any really good simple to understand books that would really help me out?
3. Should I just go play in traffic
Re: Am I in the right place?
Ok one more quick question. I was reading about php. Do I need to learn html before trying php?
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SpiritWebb
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Follow along with Halls tutorials, he will walk you through simple HTML and PHP to get a basic type game setup...that would be my suggestion for you too do if you want to learn.
Also, watch the videos all the way through, then watch them again and follow along, that way you have a better understanding of what each piece does while your programming it!
Also, watch the videos all the way through, then watch them again and follow along, that way you have a better understanding of what each piece does while your programming it!
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hallsofvallhalla
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Welcome!
I can already tell you have been to a few other game dev forums before stopping here. Take all your thoughts on those others and flush them down the toilet. Ask as many newbie questions as needed to get you started.
PHP is the best place to get started. It is easy and the HTML will fall right along with it. HTML is easy enough to learn as you go and way too boring to learn on its own.
I can already tell you have been to a few other game dev forums before stopping here. Take all your thoughts on those others and flush them down the toilet. Ask as many newbie questions as needed to get you started.
PHP is the best place to get started. It is easy and the HTML will fall right along with it. HTML is easy enough to learn as you go and way too boring to learn on its own.
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Jackolantern
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You should, however, probably take a quick look at HTML before beginning to learn PHP. I can't remember if HTML is taught in Halls' tutorials, but if it is, I don't think it starts at the very beginning. HTML is quite simple since it isn't actually a programming language (it is a fairly simple markup language), so you could learn enough about HTML to start working with PHP in probably one or two days.
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SpiritWebb
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Some basic HTML is taught in the videos...and CSS is also taught. Just letting you know!Jackolantern wrote:You should, however, probably take a quick look at HTML before beginning to learn PHP. I can't remember if HTML is taught in Halls' tutorials, but if it is, I don't think it starts at the very beginning. HTML is quite simple since it isn't actually a programming language (it is a fairly simple markup language), so you could learn enough about HTML to start working with PHP in probably one or two days.
