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Hey, might seem like an odd topic.

I stumbled across this website while looking for parts for my new car. It turns out you can order negative amounts of items nowadays. So I placed an order of -1000 body kits for a four door BMW E36. And what do you know. They don't ship outside of the US.

However in theory they would have owed me over 3 million USD.

Anyone up for trying it out? I have gotten a shipment of 50 printers for free once on a website that offered a free printer for every 100 euros worth of products ordered. Their problem was they stored the cart in your cookies. I made up a cart of 5000 euros worth of items, deleted the items out of my cookies, their system sent me out 50 brand spanking new printers, I ended up having to buy a sticker book for one euro before the system let me complete the payment. I received 50 printers and a sticker book for 4.75 EUR and haven't heard a thing about it in two years time.

Anyway:
  • http://www.yourhotcar.com/
  • Order a product for any random car.
  • Go to your cart and change the quantity of the item to something like -1000000
  • Become a millionaire in seconds?
Sounds too good to be true.
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There's probably a graph one could make between where the probability of the police treating the company as responsible Vs treating you as having commited fraud. With a middle ground where it's a coin toss between which of the two they call it as. The graph based on how much you rip off a company for it. Because the police tend to game the system as well. They take the ambiguities of the law like its a value in a cookie then the individual involved edits it (unwittingly or otherwise) to their own preference.

That's also assuming they call the police rather than any other avenue of enforcement they have.

Other than that, I'm up for a million!
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Wow nice trick ahahaha

But i got some observations:
1- For us web developers, then it's better to put a min= and max= in every quantity input box right?
2- How can you edit cookies? I'm a PHP developer and I never used cookies (unless you count Sessions xD)
3- Callan S, this may seem like fraud, but it isn't (in my books) because the flaw/glitch/bug is on their side... For what it's worth you can just say you wanted a book (like Chris ordered) and came 50 printers for free, you didn't complain at the time because it was for free, so yeah you're innocent.
Now, if you needed to hack their order database and change your order to 5000000 items, then yes i believe that's a fraud and illegal.

Good topic Chris ;)
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The only thing you have to worry about is that not every one is tech savvy, so you getting a large sum of $ from the online site will seem like hacking or exploiting a security flaw for profit and you'll be in deep waters, rather than them seeing this a fault on the side of the website. It may be something you could argue in court, but it probably ends up with you getting slammed regardless.
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Xaos wrote:The only thing you have to worry about is that not every one is tech savvy, so you getting a large sum of $ from the online site will seem like hacking or exploiting a security flaw for profit and you'll be in deep waters, rather than them seeing this a fault on the side of the website. It may be something you could argue in court, but it probably ends up with you getting slammed regardless.
I can't see why... Because If your bank had a system flaw and instantly you would get 1000$ on your account, and you would spent without noticing its not your fault...
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vitinho444 wrote:2- How can you edit cookies? I'm a PHP developer and I never used cookies (unless you count Sessions xD)
Hit F12 in Chrome or IE, not sure in FireFox, you'd need FireBug I think. In Chrome developer tools open the Resources tab, cascade the Cookies tree menu and Bob is your uncle.
Xaos wrote:The only thing you have to worry about is that not every one is tech savvy, so you getting a large sum of $ from the online site will seem like hacking or exploiting a security flaw for profit and you'll be in deep waters, rather than them seeing this a fault on the side of the website. It may be something you could argue in court, but it probably ends up with you getting slammed regardless.
In my opinion I'm making full use of the functionality they are offering me and am not doing anything wrong. If they didn't want that to happen they should not have programmed it that way. One thing they might be able to say is that you then owe them the x amount of products they gave you the money for, as they gave you the money, you give them the product . Basically it's the complete turnaround in the customer checkout service. It's the equivalent to requesting a refund as a customer, the customer should in this case give a receipt along with the corresponding product(s) back to the seller. Or the same as when the seller orders in stock.

If you are concerned about whitewashing your easily earned money:
  • Get a prepaid credit card. One of those you get in a grocery store over there in the US.
  • Buy crypto currency: https://btc-e.com/
  • Gamble it on a crypto-currency casino. https://satoshibet.com/ (don't loose too much or triple your money for all I care)
  • Cash out through a crypto trading platform to a credit card.
  • Run with a big smile on your face to the nearest ATM.
If you are still concerned about getting caught. Use cloud proxies to connect to other cloud proxies on a cloud VPS though another cloud VPS through a proxy through a cloud VPS (the possibilities are really endless). The trail you would leave would be next to untraceable. Do this on a network at your local coffee shop. Get a blow torch and melt your hard drive. Sell your melted hard drive as scrap metal, or throw it in a river. Wear a mask, wig, and gloves when you go to the ATM.

These would do the job:
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OMG Christ that tutorial ahahahahahah
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vitinho444 wrote:Wow nice trick ahahaha3- Callan S, this may seem like fraud, but it isn't (in my books) because the flaw/glitch/bug is on their side... For what it's worth you can just say you wanted a book (like Chris ordered) and came 50 printers for free, you didn't complain at the time because it was for free, so yeah you're innocent.
Now, if you needed to hack their order database and change your order to 5000000 items, then yes i believe that's a fraud and illegal.
I'm not trying to call it fraud, I'm saying just because you might think it's not doesn't mean the police will agree - and the law is usually ambigous enough that unless you've got alot of clout on your side, the police just call it whatever they want. So be aware of that danger.
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Callan S. wrote:
vitinho444 wrote:Wow nice trick ahahaha3- Callan S, this may seem like fraud, but it isn't (in my books) because the flaw/glitch/bug is on their side... For what it's worth you can just say you wanted a book (like Chris ordered) and came 50 printers for free, you didn't complain at the time because it was for free, so yeah you're innocent.
Now, if you needed to hack their order database and change your order to 5000000 items, then yes i believe that's a fraud and illegal.
I'm not trying to call it fraud, I'm saying just because you might think it's not doesn't mean the police will agree - and the law is usually ambigous enough that unless you've got alot of clout on your side, the police just call it whatever they want. So be aware of that danger.
That's a fair point. I guess as it would seem to the majority of people as unfair, it would be frowned upon, and therefor would be a rather bad deed to commit.

Whitewashing and steeling are criminal offences in a lot of countries. It would be down to the terminology the judge would like to categorize this instance as.
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Do not forget a flaw in the system does not make something legal. If a company sends you a check on accident and you cash it and spend it you are liable to pay it back. Trust me on that one. I had a relative once get a 10k check from a company and she called and said she did not know what it was. They told her it was okay to cash it and it was in fact hers. She cashed it, spent it. 4 months later they said they made a mistake. They took her to court and won. She had to pay it all back. If you find money on the street and spend it you are liable if someone claims it. Pretty messed up I know but that is how it works.
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